Discussion:
!code contributions to Qt Project
Quim Gil
2011-10-07 15:22:31 UTC
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Hi, can someone send a summary or a URL on the subject of contributions
to the Qt Project that are not based on code?

The usual suspects:

- Documentation
- Translations
- Support
- Infrastructure
- Marketing
- Events
- Local groups
- Media

Maybe more?

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Quim
m***@nokia.com
2011-10-07 15:38:20 UTC
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There's a list here, but it's not complete obviously.
http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_Governance_Model#96858cb143562346b7f065e32c403f30

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> Subject: [Opengov] !code contributions to Qt Project
>
> Hi, can someone send a summary or a URL on the subject of contributions
> to the Qt Project that are not based on code?
>
> The usual suspects:
>
> - Documentation
> - Translations
> - Support
> - Infrastructure
> - Marketing
> - Events
> - Local groups
> - Media
>
> Maybe more?
>
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a***@nokia.com
2011-10-07 16:22:50 UTC
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It was on my list of things to fledge out. Help from anyone who feels strongly about it is more than welcome.

Thanks for asking about it Quim!

Alexandra

Sent from my mobile phone.

On 7 Oct 2011, at 17:39, "Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP-Qt/Austin)" <marius.storm-***@nokia.com> wrote:

> There's a list here, but it's not complete obviously.
> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_Governance_Model#96858cb143562346b7f065e32c403f30
>
> --
> .marius
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opengov-***@qt-labs.org [mailto:opengov-***@qt-
>> labs.org] On Behalf Of ext Quim Gil
>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:23 AM
>> To: ***@qt-labs.org
>> Subject: [Opengov] !code contributions to Qt Project
>>
>> Hi, can someone send a summary or a URL on the subject of contributions
>> to the Qt Project that are not based on code?
>>
>> The usual suspects:
>>
>> - Documentation
>> - Translations
>> - Support
>> - Infrastructure
>> - Marketing
>> - Events
>> - Local groups
>> - Media
>>
>> Maybe more?
>>
>> --
>> Quim
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Quim Gil
2011-10-07 16:24:17 UTC
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On 10/07/2011 08:38 AM, Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP-Qt/Austin) wrote:
> There's a list here, but it's not complete obviously.
> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_Governance_Model#96858cb143562346b7f065e32c403f30

Yes, but that is for 'contributors', but then the roles of approvers and
maintainers seem to be all defined around code handling.

What is the planned structure of the Qt Project for these other areas,
and is meritocracy also expected to play a role there?

Can anybody aim to become e.g. the webmaster or docmaster of the Qt Project?

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Quim
Thiago Macieira
2011-10-07 16:53:27 UTC
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On Friday, 7 de October de 2011 09:24:17 Quim Gil wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 08:38 AM, Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP-Qt/Austin) wrote:
> > There's a list here, but it's not complete obviously.
> >
> > http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_Governance_Model#96858cb1435623
> > 46b7f065e32c403f30
> Yes, but that is for 'contributors', but then the roles of approvers and
> maintainers seem to be all defined around code handling.
>
> What is the planned structure of the Qt Project for these other areas,
> and is meritocracy also expected to play a role there?
>
> Can anybody aim to become e.g. the webmaster or docmaster of the Qt Project?

The idea is that non-coding roles will probably work with just Contributors
and Maintainers. Take for example the DevNet, Alexandra isn't doing the job
alone, there are a lot of volunteers who help out. Those Maintainers are often
going to be the admins in the servers / services in question.

Documentation is a special case because a good portion of it lives inside the
Qt source code repository.

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m***@nokia.com
2011-10-07 16:58:26 UTC
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On 07/10/2011 11:24, Quim Gil wrote:
> On 10/07/2011 08:38 AM, Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP-Qt/Austin) wrote:
>> There's a list here, but it's not complete obviously.
>> http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_Governance_Model#96858cb143562346b7f065e32c403f30
>
> Yes, but that is for 'contributors', but then the roles of approvers and
> maintainers seem to be all defined around code handling.
>
> What is the planned structure of the Qt Project for these other areas,
> and is meritocracy also expected to play a role there?
>
> Can anybody aim to become e.g. the webmaster or docmaster of the Qt Project?

Due to limitations with regards to Corporate Contribution License
Agreements (Corporate CLAs), only Nokia personnel may have direct access
to the Qt Project infrastructure.

Other than that, all roles should be open to everyone and we look
forward to the Qt community also assisting with helping to create
documentation, wiki articles, training materials, tutorials, etc.

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.marius
Michael Hasselmann
2011-10-07 17:02:39 UTC
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On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 16:58 +0000, marius.storm-***@nokia.com wrote:
> Due to limitations with regards to Corporate Contribution License
> Agreements (Corporate CLAs), only Nokia personnel may have direct
> access to the Qt Project infrastructure.

How does operating a server conflict with such weird licenses (and
please let me call them weird if they really do create such issues …)?

Does that mean that the Qt project would never be able to outsource the
web hosting to another company? How would it then be possible at all
that the Qt repos are currently also hosted at gitorious.org?

obviously confused,
Michael
m***@nokia.com
2011-10-07 17:27:39 UTC
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On 07/10/2011 12:02, ext Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 16:58 +0000, marius.storm-***@nokia.com wrote:
>> Due to limitations with regards to Corporate Contribution License
>> Agreements (Corporate CLAs), only Nokia personnel may have direct
>> access to the Qt Project infrastructure.
>
> How does operating a server conflict with such weird licenses (and
> please let me call them weird if they really do create such issues …)?
>
> Does that mean that the Qt project would never be able to outsource the
> web hosting to another company? How would it then be possible at all
> that the Qt repos are currently also hosted at gitorious.org?

As you are likely aware, the Qt project will have a contribution
agreement in order to enable Nokia to continue meeting its legacy
commitments to the KDE Free Qt Foundation
(http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php) and to
allow Digia's (http://qt.digia.com) commercial Qt users to participate
in the project.

The infrastructure for the contribution agreement process will be hosted
on the same servers as the other project infrastructure. Because the
contribution agreement enables Nokia to fulfill its legal obligations,
it needs to ensure that the system is secure.

Thus, at least at the beginning of the Qt Project, this means that Nokia
will maintain control of the infrastructure. Over time, some trusted
individuals may be provided with access.

Regarding Nokia's ability to use third party hosts and consultants, we
can do this by entering into hosting/service contracts with the providers.

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.marius
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